stuart: so bad if you have the law? >> are you going to enforce it? how is it going to protect -- stuart: go to a gun show, the guys selling the guns, they sell you a gun at a gun show, they have to register and bye-bye whatever it is, they have to know who i am, i have to show identification and they get on a computer and run a background check. what is wrong with that? >> nothing wrong with that at this point. stuart: why do you oppose it? >> we are talking the box when a citizen sells a gun to another citizen outside of a gun show, second and sale. stuart: what about gun shows? are you ok with that? >> the gun stores, gun retailers do background checks. it is the citizen, the citizens sale that does not. stuart: what objection to you have to citizen to citizen background checks? >> i only have an objection that it hasn't affected crime at all. there is -- it will not affect -- it won't do anything. charles: really, i don't know how to run a background check. how many know how to run a background check on someone else? stuart: i am thinking in terms